Liberal Forum

Because Grifty had EARNED a 2nd term?...

My argument also is based on the fact that words ought to have actual meaning, lol if you cannot define a political philosophy independently of who labels themselves that philosophy then you can't even talk about politics anymore....

I was specifically referring to 'internal' opposition to FDR among his supporters. Obviously the Rockefellers and DuPonts don't fall under that category as generally industrialists back in 1933 weren't FDR liberals (or if they were they did it for cynical/self serving reasons and not because they s...

Then your argument is that more people would support fascism/fascism-lite if it wasn't made into the f word of politics, which is different from people who argue that (subset) isn't liberal because (reasons). In fact your argument implies that people who oppose the current system CANNOT be liberals...

Just a hunch....

"Few groups"? There was enormous opposition.  The Rockefellers and DuPonts tried to recruit General Smedley Butler to stage a bloody military coup.  Thats pretty extreme...

How so? You know something?  ...

I agree with you overall but I think there is a bit of nuance.  Yes of course the USA is 'liberal'. Indeed both parties are liberal...republicans more than democrats (always have been)  And the majority of citizens in the usa, brainwashed in our schools, take liberal priors as axiomatic truth. The...

Well that’s why I said Cannon’s argument is invalid...majority of liberals AFAIK do not oppose the “liberal establishment” (and make no mistake - the USA is liberal ideologically) and I don’t see why they should. Sure they might bitch about how we don’t have UHC under Biden but they, in the end, sup...

Huey long's ideas and policies are still very popular today, and always will be.  That is why he had to be assassinated rather than refuted. But this winds up having to be a continual process. The elite have to constantly play whack a mole with these dangerous ideas...and the internet became a big...