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Cannonpointer
20 Jun 2021 09:35 pm
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This was sort of my thesis. "You are not a liberal" was the way I put it......
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Cannonpointer
20 Jun 2021 09:32 pm
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I would argue that the conservative impulse is to VET new ideas thoroughly - not reject them out of hand....
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Cannonpointer
20 Jun 2021 09:31 pm
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The founders had universal health care for all seamen. All it would have required to have universal health care, back in the day, was for government to build hospitals and pay doctors, rather than patients paying doctors.  ...
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FOS
20 Jun 2021 09:28 pm
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Furthermore, I would suggest that liberalism was ALWAYS nothing more than a tool for manipulation.  What consistently thwarted the rise of Jewish power? Strong leaders...like kings and stuff.  Look into the history of...say...the Bavarian illuminati. We know they percieved the printing press as a ...
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FOS
20 Jun 2021 09:08 pm
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The 50 50 split of the people is a feature, not a bug.  Your mistake is thinking that politicians have any power.  ...
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FOS
20 Jun 2021 09:07 pm
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Dude..yes it is a very likely outgrowth of liberalism. And do you not see this in the quote 'the tree of liberty must be occasionally watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants'? Lenin and mao are totally compatible with liberalism...and this is why they arent censored.  Hitler, in contrast, w...
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SJConspirator
20 Jun 2021 09:05 pm
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I believe that in the U.S. right now it’s hard to even define “establishment”.  We have two parties at loggerheads constantly, creating gridlock in Washington so that nothing gets done, except more bribery and corruption.  I was THRILLED at the thought of a border wall, just cuz it would be a massiv...
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FOS
20 Jun 2021 09:04 pm
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And yet every time you allow people to vote in referendums, they seem to prefer fascist policies lol. So I dunno. Is the establishment liberal? It is clearly self aware in its need to suppress the will of the people in order to maintain the liberal paradigm...which already contradicts the paradigm....
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Rock
20 Jun 2021 09:01 pm
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Right about what? Btw have you been on this forum all day? This is Father's Day. Myself, I've been with my kids and grandkids. What have you been doing? Arguing with a bunch of people that you consider intellectually inferior?...
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SJConspirator
20 Jun 2021 09:00 pm
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well the notion that liberalism is always in opposition to any governing body kind of leads into the idea that they would try to overthrow said government.  Which is more like Lenin’s idea of “perpetual revolution” which Mao went crazy with.  Again, not a liberal stance IMO...
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